April 23, 2015: Sky and his talk:

     Our long time member, Sky Schultz has updated his presentation, of which, we had a taste on February 19, 2015. Sky told us that he has added about 160 new slides. Of course, we did not begin to see all those slides but we saw a fair number with many deep quotes 'dropping on us from the Sky.'

     His title: "Finding God Through Nature, Science, and Mystical Poetry      
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                           and the International Society of Mystic Poetry (IMPS).

     Sky would like this talk to portray a different kind of knowing, beyond the mind and beyond death.

     Time:
                Time is a very persistent illusion   (Einstein)
                 Thoreau said in Walden "time is the stream I go a-fishin' in"
                 Oscar Wilde "Only the shallow know themselves"

    This is a conspiracy -- to breath together.

    Sky says only a professional fool would attempt effing the ineffable.

    "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is trying to get at the roots"  Henry David Thoreau

     There were many many more quotations, but I couldn't get them all. Sky did close after perhaps 35 minutes so that we could catch our breath and offer our own comments and views. The following are some of those comments.
I commented that throughout my life I have always gone to books to try to learn something new. That happened in my schooling, in medical school, and even in my leisure attempts to learn art. But all that has meant to me is that I have a house full of books. But I am not sure I have learned what is most important. All this information made me too full. But I would need to get empty to get something better.

Eric W. commented that in a material world, this type of information gathering works. But not so well in the spiritual world. Edison said "We don't know a millionth of one percent about anything."  But this is being OK without knowing.

Kathy says she is often amazed about so many of the spiritual  writings of people like Pema Chodran, Tera Brach Phd, and Gopi Krishna and his Kundalini Meditation.  Many of these writings show a connection between religions and religious leaders. Many of the thoughts are identical.

Sky interposed that Eckhart Tolle said "The test is if it resonates with me."  In other words what is true for me.

Sky had asked for a critique on this talk. Meridith commented that he thought that Sky was doing a program of reflection with all of his quotes, etc. But the program seemed hidden in the absolute number of reflections. Instead, this could be a series of talks or classes. One could be 'Reflections on Time', a second could be 'Reflections on Shallwoness', and another 'On Unknowing, etc.

Eric W:  Mel Brooks said "Humor is best defense against the universe,"  

Groucho Marx said: "These are my principles. If you don't like them, I've got others."

It might be said that the Hindu God invented humanity because he likes hearing stories.

Gary said the more we read about what is known, the more we realize we don't know. (for example quantum physics.) Humor also helps here. Sometime what we know is based on what we can't know.

Mark said that there is an ego, a self if you will. Most of us think it is a bad thing and we need to transcend the self. But remember that love is a special form of knowing. Sky agreed that Love is important. Love can cause suffering. But love is also the nature of empathy. Love leads to compassion which actually means "suffering with." Gary commented that what we know leads to what we can't know. This leads us to empathy. Again "We are all bozos on this bus," as Gary likes to summarize our status in this world. Liz felt that in the case of love, you do need some boundaries; otherwise, the suffering will set you up.

The author hopes that some of these comments are useful. This was a difficult program to summarize as it covered so wide an area with all of the wonderfully deep quotations.